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jnoble

jnoble

John Noble
I would like to replace my halyards and sheets, and would appreciate input on line type and brands, sizes and lengths for each. I have an idea of what I have now, but others probably have more experience with what works best on M-383's or M384's. Length would be different on 382's.

Happy New Year to all! This is a great group and wonderful board.

Thanks,
John
 
John
I've been very happy with New England Ropes Sta-Set for the sheets and Sta-Set-X for the halyards. The lengths and sizes for each on my 382 are as follows:
Main Halyard 100' x 7/16
Jib Halyard 115' x 7/16
Spinnaker Halyard 105' x 3/8
Main Sheet 110' X 1/2
Jib Sheets 53' x 5/8 x 2
Spinnaker Sheets 77' x 7/16 x 2
I hope this helps you out. Let me know if you need more info.

Jim

 
Jim,
Thanks for the input. The choices you recommend are pretty much what I was thinking of doing. However, I already replaced the jib sheets and got 1/2 in. The ones I replaced were 9/16 in. according to the previous owner's notes (I found this out after I got the new ones). Do you think I should use one of those for the main sheet and buy a new larger ones for the jib.The 5/8 seems big. How does it fit on a Lewmar 46 self-tailing winch?

Thanks,
John
 
John
When I had a new 130 built two years ago the sailmaker reccomended the 5/8" sheets. I just checked the Lewmar catalog and the line size listed for the 44st and 48st (they don't list a 46st) is 9/16". The loading on the jibsheets is fantastic. Better to be too big. Unfortunately the main sheet is twice the length of the jib sheet. Unless you haven't cut the 1/2" yet it may not be usable for the main. Talk to you soon.

Jim
 
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the specs for the traveller control line(s)?
Mine is currently a single line, but separate lines may be preferable?
Thanks in advance,
Rich
 
Rich
I should have showed you the traveller control lines on Dana when we were at the dock today. Ours are separate port & stbd. They measure 14' each at 7/16" double braid.

Jim
 
jimcleary said:
John
I've been very happy with New England Ropes Sta-Set for the sheets and Sta-Set-X for the halyards. The lengths and sizes for each on my 382 are as follows:
Main Halyard 100' x 7/16
Jib Halyard 115' x 7/16
Spinnaker Halyard 105' x 3/8
Main Sheet 110' X 1/2
Jib Sheets 53' x 5/8 x 2
Spinnaker Sheets 77' x 7/16 x 2
I hope this helps you out. Let me know if you need more info.

Jim
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What about the Reefing lines? Size and length please.
Thank you
 
Joshua

Unfortunately the length of your reefing lines will be dependent on where and how the sailmaker built your mainsail. We have three sets of reef points on a jiffy reef system. The lengths of my reef line will be meaningless to you. Some boats have continuous single line reef points which use much longer lines. You should be able to determine the lengths needed on your sail by laying out the sail and measuring from the clue of the sail to the reef cringle and back, then on to where you control and secure the reef line.

Jim
 
Reefing line length is dependent on the sail, as Jim says. The size of pretty much all lines is determined by how they feel in the hand. Trimming in a sheet that is under load with a small line is painful to hold, so it is oversized from what it needs to be. Reefing lines are usually not handled while under load, so can bee smaller. Mine are 3/8" now and seem to work fine.
 
I have the original main sail, with the reef points at 5' and 10'. I set it up as a single line, from the cockpit, my notes here say "minimum length 43' I seem to recall buying a 50' length of 5/16, which fit the pulley sheaves correctly. Am now adding another ball bearing soft attach block to the leech eyelet just to make it run easier.
 
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My '81 382 main sheet (end-boom) is set up with upper & lower triple blocks that lead to a beckett/swivel/cam block on the traveler. Per Jim Cleary's specs, is 110' the right length for this setup? (I'm not sure if this triple block arrangement was per Brewer's original rigging plan)
I'll measure my sheet diameter this weekend to see if it's greater than 1/2" - I've always felt it was large for my blocks. It hauls and eases ok under sail but is a lot of resistance if I want to run the boom out with no load on the sail and the coil of "extra" line is huge, most of it is often coiled and hanging off the teak combing cleat.
 
DRynning,
Without measuring, I would guess 110' to be too long. If you ease the boom all the way out, and there is still a coiled pile of line in the cockpit, cut it. My setup was like yours, with triple blocks, and I removed turn. Slightly more difficult to trim, but I don't need to push the boom out when easing anymore. The line size is determined by how it feels in your hand. The load on the mainsheet is not very high.
 
I had a 12mm dia. mainsheet line that I felt the same, it was draggy in the triple blocks so I repurposed it as a gybe preventer line and bought 100' of 3/8" line, that fit the blocks nicely, and it does run more freely than the 12mm. When the main just touches one end of the spreaders, I don't have much line left, but it works. It also helped to turn the ratchet feature off on the lower triple block, seemed like a non needed device.
 
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