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PHRF Ratings for 382

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Robert Cohen
<div>I have just recieved a PHRF rating of 132 plus 3 seconds for a
fixed 3 blade prop (total 135). That rating is for North
Carolina coastal waters primarly the sounds. I was curious what other ratings for 382s were being raced around
the country, what bodies of water and with what sails? Does the
boat sail her rating for you and what wind conditions does the
382 like best from your experience.Thanks, Look forward to hearing from you.Vic C.
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Victor -- Your base rating seems reasonable, but it is standard to allow 9 seconds/mile for the big 3-bladed prop on your boat. You might check with your rater about that.
 
In the San Francisco bay area, the PHRF is 150. A feathering prop cost you 3 seconds/mile, a max headsail of 125% gets you 6 sec/mile. You are about the lowest PHRF in the country. If your boat sails anywhere near that I would be astounded. I have a new tri-radial 125% and a new tri-radial mainsail, both by Niel Pride. I have appealed and lost twice to have the rating increased to 168. This is for a 6-ft draft, feathering prop, new sails, Schumaker rudder and a faired & sprayed bottom. Around the bouys is tough.
 
<div>The base rating for my M-383 is 135 and I get 9 secs/mile for my three-bladed sea anchor, bringing it to 144. That base rating is determined by PHRF New England, which rates the M-382 as a 144 base (plus 9 if you have a three blader).There is a web page (listed below) maintained by Sobstad sailmakers that gives connections to web pages of about 20 PHRF regions, many of which list all their ratings. You can look through and see what the Morgans rate on a number of them.
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Sorry, there aren't as many ratings among that list as I had thought -- New England, Long Island, and Lake Lanier are there (and there may be some others). I happen to know that the Long Island rating on the M-383 at 159 is unusually high because it was for one boat that raced many years and pushed the rating up. A few years ago, I saw the base rating book for the Chesapeake PHRF region, and as I recall, the M-383/4 had a base rating of 127.
 
<div>Thanks for the information. I think 144 to 150 would be about right for the boat. With good sails she would probably sail the 144. I did the Ocracoke race this past weekend and that gave me something concrete to compare too.
Oconee did fine until the wind droped to 5 knots then the lighter boats left us. A light air run is the pits. We took a 4th in non-spinaker-A class, drank a lot of beer, and had an over all good time(except it was hotter than you know what).Thanks again for the info. I plan on haveing some "discussions" with the rating committee when it meets in August. Vic Copelan

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Vic. I do not race but do belong to an association that has a strong racing program in Southern Maryland. Njord, a 1986 384, is rated at 140. I have a three blade prop and a roller furling headsail.
 
At the risk of insulting a bunch of Brewer designed M38X owners a rating of 132 seems absurd. I own a 381 and race it almost every year in the Morgan invasion out of Treasure Island,Fl which for the last 5 years or so has had an M38 class. The Brewers have a lower rating but always finish behind the 381's (usually Rolling Thunder). The 381's have a rating on the West Coast of Florida of 153 w/2-Bl prop. The Brewers have a lower rating which is patently unfair to them as there are very few points of sail they can stay up
with the old 381's.
 
I recently was rated 201 by PHRF of So Cal. I would appreciate input from other O'Day 28 owners
regarding PHRF ratings. My boat is spinnaker equipt
and has a folding prop.
 
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