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Stove Replacement Options

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Stan Mathey
<div>Any thoughts on a suitable replacement for the original Galley
Maid alcohol stove found in our 38s. I would like an LPG or CNG
replacement but don't want the expense and hassle of the
plumbing. Origo makes a full range that's alcohol (non-
pressurized) that looks good but is pricey ($1350 @ JSI).
Another option is an alcohol/electric combo that is a cooktop
drop in versus a stand-alone oven/range. The also make a nice
two burner model that unfortunately is too wide for a gimbaled
installation. I currently have a gimbaled wood cabinet in place
of my stove. It has a microwave on a lower shelf. My final
option might be to keep this configuration with the built in
range top in the top of the unit. Most of my cooking time is
spent at the dock with AC available for the electric burner. I
could refurbish the original stove but don't really the behavior
of older alcohol stoves.Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Don't worry about the plumbing for LPG, I just completed an from the new Force 10 3burner with oven through the hole your alccy hose came through and into the bin behind the range (via the space behind the back panel of the dry storage)then into the cabinet behid the reefer (under the shelf) and through the wall into the port cockpit storage area and thence to the aft storage locker where the 11 lb LPG tank is installed. The solenoid is in the aft bin as well with the switch on the aft wall above the reefer. All in all took about 4 hours. The total cost was in the range of $1450 or so, a very worthwhile investment to keep the "admiral" happy AND SAFE. Our boat had a kerosene stove and I don't think that or alcy is really safe. BOB
 
Bob
After having a number of fires in and on the kerosene stove that came on the boat, we converted to LPG a couple of years ago. Two Thumbs Up!!! We routed the hose the same way you did to the lazzerette locker. The new Force 10 stove has vastly improved our quality of life aboard "Dana". My wife Bonnie now looks forward to cooking on board where she dreaded it with the old system. Its a toss-up between the stove and the anchor windlass as to which was the better improvement added to the boat.
 
<div>OK, installing the stove and routing the hoses, etc. to the tank is the easy part. My concern is -1) How do you create a vapor proof container (vented locker) for the tank? Although the stern lazerette is sealed at the bottom I don't think it's sealed at the top. I would be inclined to put a tank locker in this lazerette (if I could find one that would fit) but would be concerned with losing too much storage space. Also, even if it is sealed, the volume of fumes could build up in that area is a concern. What size tank are you guys using (did mention 11 lbs)? Would you ever consider a sealed locker w/vent installed in the port lazerette?2) What safety gear is required to ensure adequate fume detection.Thanks for your input so far.Al Tigner
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The aft locker is best place for a propane tank. Fumes sink and will exit the boat out the bottom. If you put the tank anywhere else, fumes will drift to the bilge. You need to read past letters.
 
The aft lazarette can be made vapor tight by using the common foam spray that is used for insulation. Get a light, a mirror and a can of the stuff ( or find some one small enough to fit inside ). Once the foam cures you can paint over it. Seal up any other holes. Buy the bulkhead fittings for the solenoid wires and the gas hose to run through ( trident gas systems). If you want to get fancy you can buy the horizontal 10 lbs tanks and make some brackets so that you can place them high up under the deck.
This gives you most of the lazarette room back.
 
<div>I also have a Force 10 gas stove. I love it and the insallation was easy. Do it. I't worth the $1400. Check with Marine Exchange in Mass. for a best price on the stove.
Contact them at 800 628-8225. Three burner Force 10 is $1009. Ask for Kevin. Tell him Bob Engel sent you.Capt Robert E
Evening Star
MorganSloop@aol.com
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Al
I use a steel 9 pounder tank. They are more than half the cost of an alum. tank. The two steel ones that I bought 4 yrs ago still look like new. I store one on the aft deck covered and the second one is in use. 9 lbs seems to last forever. I switch them when the one in use "feels" empty. I also run a Force 10 heater off the same tank. E-mail if you need more info.
Capt. Robert Engel
Evening Star
MorganSloop@aol.com
 
There is an article in Dec. Sail on selecting a galley stove.
Not much more then you've been told, however there is an
article on installing a propane system.
If your interested I can fax copy or e-mail.
good luck

 
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