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Morgan 382 weight and haul out

Fortin024

New Member
Hey hey folks,
Hope everyone is good and healthy. Ive been trying to get an official answer online and can't seem to find it. Murrelet needs a haul out before the winter and I can get a pretty darn good deal with work. However, weight is restricted at 20000pounds. I read a lot of places that our Morgans would vary between 17000-18000 pounds... But what's weird is there is an official tonnage plate in my boat with the hull # stating 12.92(I'm assuming tons).

That seems quite heavier than reported. Morgan 382 1978
 

terry_thatcher

Terence Thatcher
I have to assume the 12.92 is the tonnage calculated for US documentation. Your numbers are design displacement. So, if add in water, fuel, and cruising gear, I usually figure conservatively 20,000 to 21,000. May be high. Your lift may have a scale. Your choice, your risk, I guess. Seems a little marginal, but I don't want to tell you what to do.
 

Fortin024

New Member
I could always go as empty as possible... It's just a hard guess to make without knowing what the boat actually weighs :S thanks Terry
 

pmf44

Member
I would see what other boats that marina has hauled out and check what their design displacement is. Look around the yard. There is no accurate way to know this without actually weighing the boat--but how is that done??....and knowing what is in the tanks plus gear etc.? Terry's reply is as always, most helpful and I believe the design displacement is 18k...but that can vary a bit even from boat to boat before it rolls off the production line (deadweight). Emptying the water and maybe even fuel tanks might reduce weight by as much as almost 1,000 lbs.... remove anchors, chain and other gear. The Perkins 4.108 is a couple hundred pounds lighter than the newer Yanmars that often replace them. And you might find it helpful to research the difference between displacement, deadweight, gross and net tonnage as these are often misunderstood by many boaters--including myself who has been dealing with this for many years. Gross and net are measurements of volume, somewhat archaic, and are also related to loading capacity and earning capacity. Paul Foer, Non Sea Quitter, Annapolis, MD
 

Warren Holybee

Active Member
Eliana was weighed for the Pacific cup on a certified scale at 15,720 lbs. That is lighter than most estimates, but it wasn't an estimate, it was a certified scale. All tanks dry, sails off, and no gear. Assuming you similarly offloaded everything you don't need, that leaves a fair margin.

Advertised weight was 17,000 lbs. Even that is 3000lbs under the max weight of the lift.
 

terry_thatcher

Terence Thatcher
Warren, thanks for the info. I wonder what Morgan did that led to the light boat. Scrimped on the layup?. Or, as some have said, they were the first to understand how to reduce excess resin in the layup. I know my hull in the stern, where my engine seacock is, is only about 5/16" thick. Remind me, what hull number is Eliana?
 

Warren Holybee

Active Member
Warren, thanks for the info. I wonder what Morgan did that led to the light boat. Scrimped on the layup?. Or, as some have said, they were the first to understand how to reduce excess resin in the layup. I know my hull in the stern, where my engine seacock is, is only about 5/16" thick. Remind me, what hull number is Eliana?
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Fortin024

New Member
Awesome, Thanks everybody, that makes me feel a bit better. I'll probably take that route and take all unnecessary things off the boat. I had a misunderstanding on how official tonnage worked and it had me worried that the boat was actually above 20000 pounds dry. I do have the original yanmar 30 from 78, still purrs like a kitty, and some solid dinghy davits set up in the back of the boat, but I can't see that changing my weight by that much.
 

dvogeler

New Member
Interesting discussion everyone. Informative as always. Love this forum. @Fortin024, if you happen to get your boat weighed when hauling out, please let us know what the scales say. I also have a '78 382 (hull #50) and am curious what you find.
 
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