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Bow Cleats M-382

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Robert Cohen
<div>I have never been a real fan of 2 hole cleats for bow cleats.
Hurricance Bonnie reminded me why. While the bow cleats did not
fail they sure did loosen up. Well backed 4 hole cleats help to
stablize the cleat while 2 hole cleats tend to torque around the
2 bolts. Now to the questions... Have any of you M-38x owners replaced
your bow cleats with 4 hole cleats? If so do you remember what
they were? Those of you that have reinforced your cleats how did
you approcach the problem? My thought at the moment are to remove the cleats, drill the
holes out way oversized, fill the hole with glass reinforced
epoxy, re-dirll the holes for the cleats and back with 1/4"
aluminim plate. Any suggestions?Thanks,Vic Copelan
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I have the same concern, but I do not see how to put four hole cleats on the cap rail very effectively. I had assumed the way to go was to install cleats on the deck--I know I need one by my windlass for when I use rope rode, but I have not yet installed it. I wait for others ideas, too.
 
When new I installed a Wilcox Critchenden 12" 4 bolt cleat on the port side on the glass below the Morgon clears. I used a 3/4" marine plywood backing plate. You can access on the vertical glass inside the anchor well This has held up fine for 21 seasons and went thru hurricane Gloria on the mooring. I also had a custom bowroller made up when newwhich provides a home for the 35 CQR and has vertical chocks that will hold a 1 1/4 I.D. piece of 1/4 wall tygone(nylon reinforced) as chaif gear for my 1" nylon pennent as well as rafting line guides ETC.

 
<div>Dick,I like the idea. Where did you place the vertical chocks on the cap rail in front of the Morgan cleats?Thanks,Vic

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Victor: The stem head fitting was removed and the chocks were added on top of the SS plate on the bow. They are round in shape about 1 3/4" between them on both sides and have a flat egg shaped top larger than the round standing portion that helps secure the line/ chaif gear.

 
We had a M382 in the Jacksonville area named Nordic Star. The boat was sold and is now in the Norfolk area or that is at least the best info I have.

Nordic Star had brass through toerail fittings, similar to the midship arrangement except that the cleats were mounted on the vertical inner face of the rail. It was an impressive set up. I had actually seen a similar arrangement some years ago on, I thought, a 384 and had the impression that it might have been standard for that model. Best wishes, Dick
 
This idea sounds good. I'm currently looking to redo my cleats as well. But one question on the chocks. They sound like they would be in a good position for anchouring, but it seems like they would be stressed sideways at the dock by the almost 90 degree turn. How are they on a dock where the line would be pulling straight sideways?
Bob Buchan
 
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