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stnick

lee nicholas
on MOB drills and how to do a proper hoist of a person in the water ? Would seem the Life Sling by itself just will not work , to hoist !!!
If its one of us How is the wife or crew suppose to react to hoist you back aboard?
I have done steering drill traning , but pick up of weight is a different animal !?
I want to learn the saftest method . !
 
Use boom. 1 sheet to bow, and main sheet to hold in position. Use life sling line to block on boom to winch and lift. If person is unconscious problem is bigger. Bow sheet eased, main in, pull person aboard.
Best to use harness and jack lines to avoid this situation.

Dick
 
There are several ways. You need lots of lift, a tackle to the boom might not be enough to lift someone over the lifelines. For our practice and demonstration prepping for the pacific cup, we simply used a spinnaker halyard to a winch. Another way would be to use a halyard to lift a 4:1 tackle about halfway up the mast, then use the 4:1 tackle. This is easy to practice, as you can just lift someone off the dock unto the boat. There is no need to go in the water.
 
Lee, I use my extra main hailard as Warren suggested. The four to o e tackle is always in place so I don’t have to set it up if I need it. But there are others problems with the standard life sling practice, mostly related to the quick stop method when you are running fast down wind. Attainable adventure Cruising had very thoughtful discussion of crew overboard problems. I now use only short tethers to jack lines run close to the middle of the boat, although on the Morgan it I should not as easily done as the AAC yacht. Best to stay on board, but even if you are tethered the lifting tackle may be necessary to haul someone up from overside.
 
Terry is most correct when he says the best course of events is not to leave the boat in the first place. John from Attainable Adventure has written much about jacklines, Harnesses and tethers. His point is that your system should be set up so that you can't go over the lifelines. The Lifesling system with the quick stop method works great under most conditions but is useless if the person in the water is unable to help themselves. We have done a number of hands-on Safety at Sea Seminars where we had strong kids in exposure suits (April in NY) jump over the side. To get them back on board was not easy, and it was mostly calm seas. If a boat has a good crew on board the job is a bit easier, but for a two person crew and one goes over, the task becomes very difficult. Last year a Morgan 38 in the Gulf of Mexico experienced the tragedy of the husband going over the lifelines and was dragged by his tether. His wife was unable to bring him back on board and the results were not good. So I think spending time and money on hoisting systems would be better spent on a reliable jackline system and quality harness and tethers.

Jim
 
Terry is most correct when he says the best course of events is not to leave the boat in the first place. John from Attainable Adventure has written much about jacklines, Harnesses and tethers. His point is that your system should be set up so that you can't go over the lifelines. The Lifesling system with the quick stop method works great under most conditions but is useless if the person in the water is unable to help themselves. We have done a number of hands-on Safety at Sea Seminars where we had strong kids in exposure suits (April in NY) jump over the side. To get them back on board was not easy, and it was mostly calm seas. If a boat has a good crew on board the job is a bit easier, but for a two person crew and one goes over, the task becomes very difficult. Last year a Morgan 38 in the Gulf of Mexico experienced the tragedy of the husband going over the lifelines and was dragged by his tether. His wife was unable to bring him back on board and the results were not good. So I think spending time and money on hoisting systems would be better spent on a reliable jackline system and quality harness and tethers.

Jim

All quite true. Most boats I see have jack lines run on the side deck, right next to the tow rails. It was a point of disagreement with my experienced crew, who felt that was the best place, running from the bow cleat, along the side deck, to the aft cleat. And they wanted it loose enough that it didn't cross into the cockpit on the way to the aft cleat.

I installed pad eyes on the cabin top on either side of the companionway (I don't have a dodger) and crossed the lines fore of the mast to the bow cleat on the opposite side. A truckers hitch allowed me to get them as tight as possible. This way, while working at the mast or on the fore-deck, the lines are near the center-line of the boat.

I had a second jack-line in the cockpit that tied to a padeye under the engine panel, then circled around the pedestal back to the same pad-eye.
 
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